Speaking of Racism

A podcast celebrating everyday activists who are disrupting, deconstructing, and dismantling racism.

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Jan 20th, 2020 by Speaking Of Racism at 8:43 am

Today's episode is from the early archives of the podcast. Jen shares her thoughts on an MLK event she took her kids to and continues a conversation with Noah Lomax about racism in the North and the myth that it doesn't exist as it does in the South.

Jan 8th, 2020 by Speaking Of Racism at 11:17 pm

It's a New Year, and we are bringing you a new podcast! Join Tina and Jen for the first official episode of season 2 as co-hosts. They talk about their favorite episodes from 2019, share their plans and words for 2020, tell you about next week's book giveaway, give info on upcoming Legacy Trips to Montgomery, and more!




Trevor and Maria are the hosts of Lost Ones, a true-crime racial justice podcast that focuses on stories of injustice committed against people of color. They both live in New York City and work in the criminal justice policy reform space.


They started Lost Ones to uplift the stories of people of color which are often ignored by mainstream media.

Dec 8th, 2019 by Speaking Of Racism at 11:31 pm

Tayo Rockson is a writer, speaker, consultant, and media personality who runs UYD Management - a strategic leadership and consulting firm that helps organizations incorporate sustainable diversity and inclusion practices. As someone who has lived on 4 continents, he is an authority in communicating effectively across cultures. In addition to that, he's been named a "Top 40 Millennial Influencer" by New Theory Magazine. He hosts the popular As Told By Nomads podcast and his book Use Your Difference To Make A Difference is based on how to connect and communicate in a cross-cultural world.

In this episode, Tayo joins Jen to talk about diversity training, his book, and more.

Dec 6th, 2019 by Speaking Of Racism at 8:51 pm

In this mini-episode, Speaker, coach, and anti-racism educator, Tina Strawn joins Jen to talk about the importance of Black leadership in anti-racism spaces, an exciting announcement about the podcast, and what it looks like to live anti-racism work in action.

Lori L. Tharps is an assistant professor of journalism at Temple University, an award-winning author, freelance journalist and popular speaker.

Lori joined Jen to talk about her book Hair Story: Untangling The Roots of Black Hair in America, as well as her passion for diversity.

You can find Lori's blog and podcast here: www.myamericanmeltingpot.com


Nov 3rd, 2019 by Speaking Of Racism at 7:05 pm

We interrupt our regularly scheduled programming to bring you this urgent call to action. Rodney Reed has been on death row since 1998 for a crime he did not commit, and he is scheduled for execution on November 20th. Anti-racism educator and social justice activist, Tina Strawn joins Jen to discuss the details of the case and what you can do to help. We need to amplify this story and do all that we can to stop this execution. Please listen, share, and take the steps we've outlined in the show. Refer to www.innocenceproject.org for details from show and up-to-date information.

Oct 30th, 2019 by Speaking Of Racism at 12:16 pm

Perry Clemons (He/His) is an African-American third-grade teacher from Harlem, N.Y. He has created a board game called Inequality-opoly: The Board Game of Structural Racism and Sexism in America. Inequality-opoly is a custom property trading game that transforms recent national studies into a perspective-taking experience. In this game like, in the real world, certain players based on their perceived identity enjoy privileges while others face obstacles to building wealth.

The mission of Inequality-opoly is to spread awareness and advance discourse about the effects of Structural Racism and Sexism in America. The objective of Inequality-opoly is to battle with or benefit from Structural Racism and/or Sexism to become the wealthiest player and partnership by buying, renting, developing property, and (most importantly) making deals. Whichever player or partnership has the most wealth at the end of the game wins.

The idea for Inequality-opoly came when Perry attended diversity, equity, and inclusion trainings. During these trainings, Perry noticed the difficulties the facilitators faced in demonstrating the effect of racial and gender discrimination in a way that is engaging and personalized to all the people in the room. As an educator for over a decade, he knows the best way to teach or reinforce something is to make it a game. He thought that gamifying diversity training would make for deeper understanding and richer discussions. After 3 years of research, development, and playtesting, Inequality-opoly is now for sale thanks to a successful Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaign at www.inequalityopoly.com

Corey Leak is a pastor, activist, writer, and podcaster. In this episode, Corey joins Jen to talk about his new podcast, his passion for difficult conversations, what it was like to work in white evangelical spaces, and how his justice work and activism collided within evangelical spaces.

You can follow Corey on Instagram at @coreyevanleak and @existentialpodcast. You can find him on Facebook and you can find his podcast on a number of platforms.

In this episode, Marcie Walker from Black Coffee With White Friends joins Jen to talk about her new project- Mockingbird History Lessons. 

Marcie talks about her passion and vision for Mockingbird History Lessons and beyond. She shares her own personal story as a young girl learning history in a predominantly white school, how little it had changed when her daughter went to school decades later, and what she's doing to change it. 


Go to:https://www.patreon.com/mockingbirdhistorylessonsforadults/posts to join the movement and support Marcie.

You can also follow her on IG @blackcoffeewithwhitefriends and @mockingbirdhistorylessons